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A week after a Navy SEAL trainee died following a swimming drill in California, accounts are emerging that challenge the Navy's narrative of what happened and paint a darker picture, alleging that the death may have been the result of an instructor going too far.
Seaman James Derek Lovelace, 21, died May 6 during what a Navy spokesman described as a swimming exercise in the first week of SEAL training. A safety observer noticed Lovelace "having a hard time," the spokesman said, and instructors guided him to the edge of the pool and tried to revive him. He never regained consciousness. ...
The Virginian-Pilot and NBC News first reported on the incident Tuesday, four days after Lovelace died in Coronado, Calif., during the first week of Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL training, better known as BUD/S and considered among the world's most challenging military training regimens. The Navy announced the death only after officials were contacted Tuesday by reporters for NBC News and The Pilot. ...
In response to detailed questions for this story, Cmdr. Jason Salata, a Navy spokesman, said in a statement Friday that Naval Special Warfare Command is "fully cooperating" with the NCIS investigation and a separate Navy safety investigation into the training death.
"It would be premature to discuss any details until those investigations are complete," Salata wrote.
Unlike what was described by the Navy, the sources say the drill involved physical harassment of trainees by instructors in the water, intended to test their ability to stay afloat under stress. It wasn't a "drown proofing" drill, according to three of the sources, but rather a more intense exercise known as "combat tread." During "combat tread," according to former SEALs, students swim in camouflage uniforms while instructors grab at them in the water. ...
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/sources-challenge-navy-account-seal-trainee-death-n573866?cid=par-sy-lenovo-gen4
A week after a Navy SEAL trainee died following a swimming drill in California, accounts are emerging that challenge the Navy's narrative of what happened and paint a darker picture, alleging that the death may have been the result of an instructor going too far.
Seaman James Derek Lovelace, 21, died May 6 during what a Navy spokesman described as a swimming exercise in the first week of SEAL training. A safety observer noticed Lovelace "having a hard time," the spokesman said, and instructors guided him to the edge of the pool and tried to revive him. He never regained consciousness. ...
The Virginian-Pilot and NBC News first reported on the incident Tuesday, four days after Lovelace died in Coronado, Calif., during the first week of Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL training, better known as BUD/S and considered among the world's most challenging military training regimens. The Navy announced the death only after officials were contacted Tuesday by reporters for NBC News and The Pilot. ...
In response to detailed questions for this story, Cmdr. Jason Salata, a Navy spokesman, said in a statement Friday that Naval Special Warfare Command is "fully cooperating" with the NCIS investigation and a separate Navy safety investigation into the training death.
"It would be premature to discuss any details until those investigations are complete," Salata wrote.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/sources-challenge-navy-account-seal-trainee-death-n573866?cid=par-sy-lenovo-gen4
Question for Dialed In, Rung Sat was in IV Corps, The Hobos (I'm intimately familiar with them) was in III Corps, Parrots Beak (also familiar with it) was in Cambodia adjacent to III Corps, Laos was up in II and I Corps. What were you a traveling salesman?
i read a few posts from those who served in vietnam and korea on this board, and they detail what its like to be in "the trenches" and they stayed the course. they held out through all of the bad times. Again, thank you for your service.
I know this post doesnt mean alot to you or anybody else, but there are people out there who appreciate what you do or have done.
Now, as far as I've been able to ascertain, his designation was never upgraded to POW...only Desertion. I could be wrong about this but that is what I have seen so far.
I further haven't seen as yet any charges or real physical proof he is a traitor. THAT will have to be determine in a military court.
But there is NO DOUBT that he IS in fact a deserter...at least unless/until his designation with the military changes. THAT much is clear.
A solid majority of veterans surveyed in a new USA Today/Pew Research Center poll say President Barack Obama was "wrong" to trade Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl for five senior Taliban leaders. Overall, 68 percent of veterans condemn the trade while 16 percent said that it was the right decision. The research also showed that only 6 percent of veterans felt sympathy for Bergdahl, who has been accused by his own platoon of leaving his post before he was seized by the Taliban five years ago...